email is the tool of choice for organising things. I want to put them in a project or sub project projects add up all the variables in their sub projects in a project we can have a discusions in email with others replys automatically come to the project the project has actions , priorities, members, people, customers, supliers, costs, associated with it. actions have due dates/times list of actons by due dates/times actions can spawn new actions as children templating a new actions with sub actions budgets etc. looking at inbox or task list is admin time, everything else is an action as part of a project actions engaging in discussion define the issue suggest solutions make a choice hope matters more than happiness